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MSc in Management Science & Operational Research

 
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#0 MSc in Management Science & Operational Research
 
Pete
19.12.8 00:00
 
I'm looking to enter an MBBB or even firms like First Manhattan, as i have experience within the FS industry - I'm still employed - but want to move into advisory.As I'm on a grad program - I'm lost within this field of management consultancy when it comes to searching for jobs.For this reason i'm thinking about the following MSc, to gain me a better understanding of what this field is about, and help me apply for grad entry level jobs within MBBB or e.g. First Manhattan.http://www.wbs.ac.uk/students/masters/msor/Please let me know what you think of this uni / qual ? Is it worth me doing a MSc at 25 and graduating at 26? Are there any similar courses in london - as i live with parents - this would be cost effective!
 
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Anon
19.12.8 00:00
 
No idea about the usefulness of the quals, but 2 minutes research threw up this in Londonhttp://www.lse.ac.uk/resources/graduateProspectus2009/taughtProgrammes/Default.htm - check out the programmes under sections "O" and "M"
 
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Pete
19.12.8 00:00
 
The cost at warwick was 5 k vs the cost at LSE which is 15+ for MSc including management or even 13k for the MSc in O.R.! I had found that - but wanted to establish thoughts on Warwick as a Uni and the course MSOR ?
 
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anon
19.12.8 00:00
 
Warwick's a good university, particularly for this course. The top schools for MS/OR are Manchester, Warwick and Lancaster. The first two have best brand recognition for general business careers. LSE's management and decision sciences courses aren't that good but there's such demand from international students for the LSE name that they can get away with it.MS is at the heart of management consulting. The analytical approach will stand you in good stead for a consulting career.I don't see a problem in taking a year to get an MSc and gain more focus in this area. You won't be disadvantaged against younger graduates. To be honest, there aren't any great jobs available at entry-level right now so putting the job search off for a year isn't a bad idea.
 
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Pete
19.12.8 00:00
 
Thanks, After taking this MSc in M.S.O.R. I hope to leave the doors open in june 2010 to enter into M.C. at e.g. First Manhattan... or alternatively try to re-enter in the financial sector within FO... I know this forum may not the be correct place ... but are MSc in Mang worthwhile with respect to FO ?
 
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anon
20.12.8 00:00
 
On a rational basis, MS/OR should be an attractive profile to banks (quantitative but grounded in business) but, at least pre-crunch, they much preferred pure Masters in Finance degrees.
 
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Pete
20.12.8 00:00
 
Thanks - I wanted to find a sept2009 MSc which opens the most doors after completion...careers like: MC@MBBB/First Manhatten type firms...Advisory@big4...FO research type roles...Need to know if people concur with this route/life-plan - or would one argue decide now b4 starting the MSc ... (FYi...I'm trying to make my career decision in Oct2009 when I apply for all the grad programs at age of 26 ...) (MC/FO/advisory etc...)
 
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anon
20.12.8 00:00
 
Two things to consider.1) Only ever take a postgraduate course if you're interested in the content. From a career perspective, you're almost always better to spend the time getting work experience.2) There is a huge spread in the roles you describe - if you know what you want, just go for it. If you don't, don't be too dogmatic about the career/life plan - just try something and see how it goes.
 
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Pete
21.12.8 00:00
 
career perspective - I’m 25 in Product Control and want to move to FO research or MC (any of the career choices mentioned above) – I figured that taking a pause with MSc for 10 months, while the economy recovers - makes sense – as opposed to work exp - “biding my time” in product control – as I know I do NOT want to become a senior member who monitors routine daily excel tasks!...the MSc gives me an escape from a job I strongly dislike and allows me to use my brain for 10months!...I do not want to be dogmatic in any way … which is why I thought about MC! (supposedly varied work / life style, from project to project!). Ignoring the MSc talk, I know I have the option of trying MC and seeing how it goes, and then return to finance, if I do not enjoy it… but how does one apply to MC with 1-2 years post graduate work exp at present on CV at 25…!?
 
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AN ON
21.12.8 00:00
 
"how does one apply to MC with 1-2 years post graduate work exp at present on CV at 25"Apply to graduate schemes. If that doesn't work out, then another Masters won't help at this stage. The entry points to consulting are typically:0-2 years post-graduation experience = graduate scheme5 years post-graduation experience + MBA through to 8 years post-graduation experience = associate hire10+ years, including senior management work experience = experienced hireA relevant Masters as a direct continuation of university can help at graduate level. However, a couple of years work experience is much more powerful. Since you already have the latter, I don't believe the Masters will help. You're either good enough to get in now, or (to be blunt) you're just not going to be ready for several more years.
 
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Pete
21.12.8 00:00
 
I have couple of years work experience, & my BSc Maths (Jun05) which proves my analytical mindset - how does one go about entry to MC, as this does not fall under the list you gave!? The entry points to consulting are typically: 0-2 years post-graduation experience = graduate scheme 5 years post-graduation experience + MBA through to 8 years post-graduation experience = associate hire 10+ years, including senior management work experience = experienced hire
 
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eh
21.12.8 00:00
 
You have a "couple of years" experience. The word "couple of" conventionally means approximately two. Two fits into the category "0-2".
 
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Pete
22.12.8 00:00
 
I have 2 years 3 months work experience.BSc Maths (Jun05) - meaning 3 years since graduated (8months + 4 months travelling round the world between jobs in BO) - FYi the last year has been in product control ...I'm 3 yrs out of uni - and thus too old for grad programs - 2 yrs is the limit.Still looking into how to move to MC - perhaps getting industry expereince for 3 yrs and then apply when economy picks up ... but really not 100% what industry experience is ?!
 
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