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Deloitte TI vs. Capgemini BIS

 
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#0 Deloitte TI vs. Capgemini BIS
 
DeepJoy
16.04.8 00:00
 
Hi - I'm an experienced IT consultant (9 years IT advisory work) with offers from both these teams (London). I'm struggling to decide which team to join and would appreciate any input w.r.t how these practices stack-up i.t.o client perception, type of projects, exit options (I'M NOT INTERESTED IN A GENERAL DELOITTE VS CAP DISCUSSION).Thanks in advance.
 
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#0 RE: Deloitte TI vs. Capgemini BIS
 
Why
17.04.8 00:00
 
Why on Earth do people insist on writing in ALL CAPS on forums, asking for advice?So annoying!
 
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AGREE
17.04.8 00:00
 
I AGREE
 
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#0 RE: RE: RE: Deloitte TI vs. Capgemini BIS
 
Need more info
17.04.8 00:00
 
What grade have you been offered at each Firm?
 
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#0 RE: RE: RE: RE: Deloitte TI vs. Capgemini BIS
 
SHOUTER
17.04.8 00:00
 
DELOITTE ARE FAR SUPERIOR RO CAP GEMINI IN EVERY WAY
 
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Why
17.04.8 00:00
 
I will have to agree with SHOUTER on that, even though his utter disregard for our feelings for All Caps is shocking!Capgemini, even though a respectable org. is by no means even remotely in the same league as Deloitte.Go for Deloitte...Although the fact that you had to even ask this question makes me wonder on your fit within Deloitte. I have changed my mind: Head to Cap. You'll love it there.
 
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Cap'er
17.04.8 00:00
 
'not remotely in the same league' is this also true of Capgemini's CDC? I thought it was a good starting point in the consulting industry.
 
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DeepJoy
17.04.8 00:00
 
Shouter / Why - do either of you know enough about the TI & BIS practices to make these bold statements or are you comparing Deloitte and Cap in broad terms (using who-knows-what for your comparison). As I mentioned I'm an IT consultant through-and-through and I need to compare these 2 practices (I couldn't care less if Deloitte S&O is better than CAP SAD / PI). SO, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MEANINGFULL INPUT, BITE YOUR TONGUES.To "need more info" - M4 at Deloitte and C4 at Cap.
 
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SHOUTER
18.04.8 00:00
 
WHY ARE YOU STILL SHOUTING?
 
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#0 RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Deloitte TI vs. Capgemini BIS
 
DeepJoy
18.04.8 00:00
 
SHOUTER - thanks for keeping the thread going. Perhaps someone with useful input will notice it.
 
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CC
23.05.8 00:00
 
BIS is the IT strategy practice in Capgemini Transformation Consulting and has a solid European network (also responsible for the CIO survey - 400 f2f interviews globally last year)IT strategy in Deloitte is not in strategy & ops anymore
 
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Big Consultant
26.05.8 00:00
 
Do not dare to compare Deloitte TI to Cap's BIS. They are not in the same league at all, Cap is way more superior. What do you think it is? IT Risk Audit? If so, head for Deloitte. Cap BIS do solid IT strategy. You can only compare BIS with the likes of Accenture's SITE. Deloitte plays in the lower leagues in this space.
 
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DC
27.05.8 00:00
 
Big Consultant, are you for real?Capgemini in any service line, better than Deloitte? What a delusional conviction!
 
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dutchconsultant.baywords.com
27.05.8 00:00
 
"Capgemini in any service line, better than Deloitte? " From a client point of view that question can only be answered if you know what you are looking for... As in, CapGemini has a stronger IT background than the traditional Deloitte playing field.From an employer point of view; what do you want to accomplish? What are your strengths?Why not talk to them and see which of the two matches your ambitions?
 
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habitual con
08.07.8 00:00
 
now independent but having worked in both Deloitte Consulting and CC (and hired several people from Deloitte into Capgemini Consulting), I'd say BIS has a very different feel. Deloitte is big, hierarchical and structured - people have lots of toolkit suport but find it difficult to escape their silos. CC BIS is small and gives good stretch opportunities across all their service lines - IT strat thru op model / org design etc. Hours and overall ethic are comparable. Deloitte offices are a million times better than the Wardour St slum. CC culture more open and team-oriented; lots of 'boomerangs' who leave and return, which is a good sign. Make it to partner at Deloitte and you'll be a whole lot richer though. so where did you choose?
 
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#0 RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Deloitte TI vs. Capgemini BIS
 
habitual con
08.07.8 00:00
 
now independent but having worked in both Deloitte Consulting and CC (and hired several people from Deloitte into Capgemini Consulting), I'd say BIS has a very different feel. Deloitte is big, hierarchical and structured - people have lots of toolkit suport but find it difficult to escape their silos. CC BIS is small and gives good stretch opportunities across all their service lines - IT strat thru op model / org design etc. Hours and overall ethic are comparable. Deloitte offices are a million times better than the Wardour St slum. CC culture more open and team-oriented; lots of 'boomerangs' who leave and return, which is a good sign. Make it to partner at Deloitte and you'll be a whole lot richer though. so where did you choose?
 
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#0 RE: Deloitte TI vs. Capgemini BIS
 
Smith
27.07.8 00:00
 
Simple...which company matches your personalgoals best for career growth within the next 3-5years?Follow your gut instinct as you will be correct!
 
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