haha no Newb, from what I hear in comparison to others McKinsey is more relaxed. I asked them this, well along those lines at a presentation here at Uni and they simply said "why would we be here if that was the case". However, they then went on to say that the reason this happens to occur is due to the sheer volume of applications from Oxbridge etc.Steve, I also know someone who received the PFO as you described it quite early on in the process and in my opinion he was far better qualified than me so I am not sure of the relevance.