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#0 Daily rates
 
MJ
16.01.7 00:00
 
Hi guys, I'm changing a few things in my practice at the moment and have started looking at different pricing models. This has led to a few questions about daily rates.Please could you all share with me your knowledge of the typical rates charged by other consultancies?I'll share mine:Consultant - 1260Snr Consultant - 1400Manager - 1850Snr Manager - 2100Partner - 2500This is for a medium sized boutique firm.Also any tips you might want to share regarding pricing of work would be lovely. Thanks!
 
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anon
16.01.7 00:00
 
... who are you McK?quite expensive I would say especially for low grades. If you sell C at 1260 and SC at 1400 your guys must be real good.I struggle to sell SC at 1250 even for strat work to my FTSE100 clients
 
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MJ
16.01.7 00:00
 
Seriously?? We have no problem at all billing our guys out at these rates. Our competitors seem to be struggling to maintain their fee levels (some of them are down to £700 per day!!!!), but we're finding it worringly easy. I think it could be partly because we're quite efficient internally; we just get the job done then go home. We also do our best to avoid a face-time culture and have low staff turnover (no up or out policies here thank you), so our guys keep their self esteem high and are good at what they do. We're nothing special either, definitely not a MBBB firm.However, I'm aware that even when things appear to be going well in MC, trouble is always lurking around the corner. For this reason alone I am keen to investigate other pricing models and to find out more about what other MCs are charging and how they structure their commercial arrangements.
 
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Cheapos
16.01.7 00:00
 
I'm a mere C and cost £2415
 
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MJ
16.01.7 00:00
 
Cheapos, I take it you're joking?! Either that or you have very highly specialised skills and/or a different grading structure to the one we use? What sector/size firm do you work with?
 
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anon
16.01.7 00:00
 
Wow..this thread amazes me.I'm a freelancer working in the compliance field - specifically in the MiFID "space".My rate is £1250 per day. I amazed at how low some of the rates quoted here are in comparison.Oh yeah, I did not go to Oxbridge and am a proud member of the 2:2 club.
 
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Village Idiot
16.01.7 00:00
 
I think there are a few things you need to bear in mind about rates: first, that they will vary greatly based on who you work for and the type of work that you do; second, that there is a difference between a standard rate card and what clients actually pay.I won't disclose specific rates for my firm because they are commercially sensitive, but they range from low £1000s for our junior consultants up to many thousands a day for our partners. But that's only half of the story. Because it's a very rare client that pays our full rate card.Nearly every client gets a discount against our standard rates -- either as a loss-leader for new business, as part of a standard contract, or based on volume discount. We may sell a manager to one client on a one-off engagement at £2500 per day, then sell them to another client who throws us tons of work at £1700 per day. Rate card on the manager could be £3000, but who cares -- no one pays that in reality.Other factors to consider are models where risk/reward is shared -- though you might cut the dayrates, your 'reward' portion will be higher to account for the increased risk and exposure you face.Finally, it depends on how specialised your skills are. If you're dealing in commodity consulting, you'll struggle to break the £2K rate -- particularly if you're dealing in an arena where there is considerable contract labour (many of whom are willing to do the same job at £600 a day). If, on the other hand, you've got a unique set of skills, robust methodologies or proprietary IP, you'll probably be able to charge a lot more for your time.The bottom line is this -- most consultancies will generally charge as much as the market (and client) will bear. When you hit a pricing ceiling, you need to differentiate your service or skills to achieve higher rates. You can do this in a number of ways -- the perceived skills of your staff (a la MBBB), your methodologies and IP (big 4), industry-specific expertise (boutiques).
 
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Cheapos
16.01.7 00:00
 
VI speaks the truth. I'm not joking about my rate though.
 
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Daddy Warbucks
17.01.7 00:00
 
Big 4, Grade C, 28 yrs old, card rate £2.5k, probable agreed rate £1.8k - £2.3kI'm good, but even I think it's a little crazy.
 
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#0 RE: Daily rates
 
Tony Restell (Top-Consultant.com)
17.01.7 00:00
 
Each year the UK&apos;s Management Consultancies Association publishes a very detailed report on the UK consulting industry. In the <a href=http://www.consultant-news.com/article_display.aspx?p=adp&id=3017 target=_blank>MCA&apos;s most recent report</a> the average fees generated per consultant each year were documented as being £237,000. Allowing for utilisation and holidays, this would imply an average day rate charged at ~ £1,200 in the UK market.The MCA membership is weighted towards the major full service firms like Accenture, Atos, BT, Capgemini, Deloitte, etc. So this £1,200 day rate would reflect the average that these types of firms are achieving across the range of their management consulting services (excluding IT consulting and outsourcing). The likes of McKinsey, BCG, Bain, etc. are not captured in the report and one would expect this top-end strat work to be being undertaken at a considerable premium to the above rate. So the other figures being quoted in this thread do not seem out of line - particularly since there&apos;s been a year of strong growth in consulting demand since this data was compiled, meaning rates have probably strengthened in the interim.2007 should be a good year for the sector!Rgds, Tony Restell (Top-Consultant.com)
 
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