Search:
search button
How much do you use consulting methodologies and research?
 
2 posts
19.12.6
Why do BSIC want Strat
 
8 posts
17.12.6
Our Clients : EY / DC / McKinsey
 
3 posts
02.01.7
Advice on Agilisys
 
1 posts
15.12.6
Which firms would you advice me to contact?
 
5 posts
18.12.6
Secondment opportunities
 
5 posts
15.12.6
From BCS to BAS ????
 
9 posts
18.12.6
Deloitte Promotion Round ?
 
3 posts
16.12.6
PwC Valuations & Strategy
 
4 posts
17.12.6
What is Business Transformation?
 
2 posts
16.12.6
Bain milkround
 
32 posts
08.01.7
How well does Capgemini pay...............
 
4 posts
02.01.7
Qauntitative Tests-practice
 
5 posts
20.04.8
What is the point of asking a question to someone that can't answer?
 
2 posts
13.12.6
PWC Strategy Group
 
8 posts
13.12.6
GMAT ANALYTICAL TESTS...
 
1 posts
13.12.6
EY Culture / Deloitte Culture?
 
12 posts
16.12.6
Advice Please?
 
3 posts
13.12.6
Paying back Accenture sign-on bonus
 
5 posts
13.12.6
OPINION ABOUT MIDDLE EAST
 
16 posts
27.12.6
Greenwich Consulting
 
3 posts
18.12.6
Recruitment consultants: the good and the bad
 
5 posts
14.12.6
PwC Strategy pay
 
14 posts
16.12.6
Interviews as a formality?
 
3 posts
12.12.6
Healthcare and Pharma M&A
 
3 posts
12.12.6
ACN Salary and Sign on bonuses
 
9 posts
25.12.6
RFU, consulting & woodward...
 
1 posts
12.12.6
Re-regulating recruitment consultancies - open letter
 
5 posts
09.01.7
Salary expectations
 
1 posts
12.12.6
Those recruitment consultants...
 
15 posts
14.12.6
Internships - E&Y
 
12 posts
30.12.6
underwhelming offer
 
3 posts
13.12.6
Roland Berger
 
8 posts
16.12.6
What watch to pick?
 
49 posts
03.01.7
NEW COMMER TO CONSULTANCY, SALARY...
 
2 posts
12.12.6
kpmg advisory
 
6 posts
12.12.6
Strat House Travel - style or chicken class?
 
5 posts
12.12.6
Spectrum Interview
 
6 posts
13.12.6
recruitement accenture
 
3 posts
11.12.6
Application reply time....
 
5 posts
14.12.6
Accenture Grad assessment day
 
4 posts
19.12.6
Accenture vs. Applied Value
 
2 posts
12.12.6
Top THREE Questions...
 
2 posts
10.12.6
Where would you pick?
 
6 posts
13.12.6
LEK applications
 
3 posts
10.12.6
ACN - final round strategy
 
4 posts
11.12.6
Six Sigma to consultancy
 
3 posts
11.12.6
salaries in benelux countries
 
2 posts
11.12.6
KURT SALMON ASSOCIATES INSIGHT
 
3 posts
09.12.6
Essentials for new consultants?
 
13 posts
19.12.6
 

Re-regulating recruitment consultancies - open letter

 
forum comment
#0 Re-regulating recruitment consultancies - open letter
 
Ian Pye
12.12.6 00:00
 
It is one of my strongest held beliefs that the de-regulation of the Recruitment Industry by Michael Heseltine when he was President of the Board of Trade, was probably one of the worst pieces of Government interference to hit a particular sector. I believe this to be particularly so when you consider that by its very nature, we are dealing with people and their livelihoods.You may recall that at one time we had to have a licence to operate as recruitment consultancies from the then Department of Employment. This was very difficult to obtain and the criteria for its provision and retention were incredibly hard. One of the major facets of the licence was how we dealt with candidates. DoE Inspectors could call at your office, unannounced, and ask to see your invoice file and then pick a candidate at random from it and ask to see the complete paper trail of your dealings with the candidate. This would include interview reports, CV/confidential report preparation, briefing documents on the client(s) and any marketing of their skills you had agreed with the candidate. If any of this was missing, you could lose your licence and therefore, your living!Nowadays, we have a situation where Agencies (I prefer to call them agencies rather than recruitment consultancies) sometimes won't even tell the candidate the name of the client! - how can they brief them then?We have had many candidates whose CVs have gone to clients without their permission and then the agency has the nerve to argue with the client that they submitted the CV first and should be entitled to a fee.As far as the Management Consultancies are concerned we are experiencing a degree of box ticking when it comes to the recruiter process with candidates being rejected for the most amazing reasons. One major consultancy wanted to know the grade in GCSE level maths! - clearly had got to that box in the process and couldn't tick it. We also find that much of the initial qualification is being done by people with very little business experience who really don't know what they are looking for and who have very little idea of what their firm actually does. It is then quite worrying when the Directors or Partners of the firms say that recruitment is an on-going problem. Little do they realise that the constraints in place in their recruitment processes are making their growth difficult. We had a candidate rejected by a consultancy specialising in the FS market as he had insufficient FS experience - 14 years! (Maybe the box specified 15 and he just dipped out!)All in all, I believe that our industry needs to re-examine the introduction of some standards and the clients need to understand that continuing to be as picky as they are (and very precious about their reputations), will only serve to make their recruitment drives very hard.Hope this gives a little food for thought.
 
Reply

Reply

 
 
forum comment
#0 RE: Re-regulating recruitment consultancies - open letter
 
Bryan - Top-Consultant.com
12.12.6 00:00
 
Thanks to Ian Pye- Partner at Executive Search Consultancy SBCS - for the open letter. He, like us, is keen to stimulate debate about the management consultancy recruitment industry, so do please share your thoughts. If you would like to participate in the annual management consultancy recruitment survey, let us know your experiences over the past 12 months, and leaarn from your peers, then you can find the poll here: http://www.top-consultant.com/rc_questionnaire_2006-7.asp. Thanks, Bryan.
 
Reply

Reply

 
 
forum comment
#0 RE: Re-regulating recruitment consultancies - open letter
 
Crabbit
12.12.6 00:00
 
Having a bad day, Ian? :o)I'm a recruiter for a mgt consulting firm, and while I agree with some of your points about the efficiency of the recruitment function, I think you may have a slightly inflated view about the professionalism of your own industry. Look at some of the postings on this site on people's experiences with agencies... the good ones are few and far between.As for your point about our 'tick box' approach to screening CVs, I've only ever seen that work in graduate recruitment and in the most arrogant of strategy firms. It would be foolish to take a black and white view in the majority of situations. What agencies seem to forget, is that they are providing the client with a service. And they get paid a phenomenal amount of money for doing (in most cases) very little indeed.Also, the majority of agency staff have no background in HR or in-house recruitment. I'm sure the bulk of screening that goes on there is even less scientific than our own.Of course, I'm sure you and your firm are the pinnacle of professionalism, and the exception that proves the rule...
 
Reply

Reply

 
 
forum comment
#0 RE: RE: Re-regulating recruitment consultancies - open letter
 
Crabbit
13.12.6 00:00
 
And I think the venom currently being vented in thread 21602 (Those Recruitment Consultants) proves my point...
 
Reply

Reply

 
 
forum comment
#0 RE: RE: Re-regulating recruitment consultancies - open letter
 
Ian Pye
09.01.7 00:00
 
Dear CrabbitMany apologies for not replying sooner and a very Happy New Year to you.The point I was trying to make was in total agreement with your comment about the lack of professionalism in the Recruitment industry and so, my view that some sort of regulation is urgently needed.It was not a knock at the management consultancies or any other employer for their lack of professionalism but a statement that some of the recruiter practices are a little pedestrian and needlessly finicky in what is a very difficult market to recruit into.Hope this makes my plea for greater professionalism all round a little more clear and good to hear from you - maybe we should do some business together and then you can judge for yourself if I'm professional or not.RegardsIan Pye
 
Reply

Reply

 
Return to the top of page.

ThreadID: 0