Hi,I am a penultimate year electronic engineering student with experience (summer placement) in the engineering consulting industry. I would like to move into consulting proper. Given my background I am most interested i consulting with a technology feel, (Supply chain management, SAP, etc.) Looking through possible internships obvious choices are Deloitte and Accenture. Could someone tell me about E&Y's consultancy group? Are they very based on financial services or are they broader? They advertise a Technology and Security Risk Services (TSRS) internship but details of the group are sparse.If anyone could reccomend other internship schemes, it would be most appreciated.Thanks

34 replies about a new watch and not 1 about Ernst and Young. Anyone?

What does that tell you? Is that not an answer in itself?

Well, no. I don't think it does. I am not asking if people like Ernst and Young, I am asking about what areas they tend to work in.

EY's consultancy arm was sold off like other Big 4 (except for Deloitte). EY sold it's consultancy to Cap Gemini. It is now starting to rebuild it and is growing quite rapidly. Not to make it look like they're stepping on Cap Gemini's toes, they call it Advisory instead of Consulting.The consultancy arm is broken down into ICG (industry, commerce & government), FS (financial services) and NGM (national growth markets). As FS is one of the three parts does suggest that it is the biggest industry within the firm, but this isn't really different to any others.So, to answer your question - they're not only FS based, they're are broader. My very rough guess would be ICG probably generate 40% or more fees out of the three. NGM is the smallest as you can guess.Now, more specifically to your case. What differentiates EY's TSRS from likes of IBM or Accenture is that TSRS don't sell technology so are somewhat independent, something that IBM or ACN cannot claim. Indeed TSRS might sometimes reccomend a client to use these for their technological needs.Hope this helps. Let me know if you need more info.

dudeEY is not going well, the success of BAS to date has been very very bleak. As one partner put it, i wouldnt touch them with a totem pole.

EY BAS dont currently offer internships as they are still developing and a programme for interns hasn't been put together yet. TSRS are seperate from BAS and do offer an internship. FS consulting are also seperate from the main EY BAS for the moment

Apple Man !Get serious. I work in BAS and no way is it bleak !Great place to work; As evident by the amount of CVs that BAS gets from other consulting firms.......

Well, maybe not so many CVs from "consulting" firms. More from systems integrators to whom BAS looks really exciting and dynamic. It's all relative.

Let me illustrate a scenario for you, and for all those CVs that you say are floating around.Accenture UK Staff: circa 17,000Atos UK staff: 2,000CG UK staff: 3,000KPMG / PWC: 30,000+IBM staff: 20,000+Now im sure there are LOADS from the above floating in your office and many CVs in the pipeline. As there are many BAS CVs floating in thiers. But strangely no MBBBs... hmm.... THe best trait is honesty: youre a tier 3 player - with nice offices on the river. Not exactly doing TL are you?

peters, there is more to life than strategy consulting. Not everyone wants to work in a strat house, and MBBB is not necessarily the gold-standard by which everything in consulting is measured. Why would someone from MBBB apply to EY? They're totally different beasts. EY is an operational consultancy with a finance focus, MBBB are strat houses.Many of the EY adverts specify people who hold an accounting qualification -- unlikely if they're currently employed with MBBB, and equally unlikely if they're employed by the big IT houses.The other thing that isn't being said here is that there are pockets of good consultants in the big IT houses, mostly from their legacy organisations. For example, IBM (often slated on these boards) still has a few ex-PWC consultants floating around. CGEY still has some of the old EY guys floating around. Atos still has some of the old KPMG Consulting guys floating around.I accept that many of those who are left from legacy organisations may be dead wood, but that's not universally the case.To the original poster: I wouldn't write off EY based on the comments here. If you want to find out more about TSRS, the best thing to do is get in touch with HR at EY, who can probably point you in the right direction. Regardless of any of the crap being put forth on this board, an internship at ANY of the big 4 will look good on your CV and will be worthwhile experience for you.Good luck.

All the Firms you list are big SIs rather than consulting firms. And they are all imploding at the moment.....Accenture due to the NHS (see the posts on Accenture pay rises)....IBM due to the culture and lack of focus on high end advice giving.....etc etcIf anyone is applying to these companies at the moment then they must ask about attrition rates which I understand are running at +20%. This is NOT GOOD.I actually have an LBS MBA (93/94) and no accounting qualification and quite a few people do at EY BAS. Put your vitriol away. People log on for good advice. ps the office view is lovely !