Look at this from the negotion side! How good are you, how well can you negotiate for your company - if you can't for yourself. Always in negitiations one seeks the middle ground, so all parties are satisfied. Having always sold solutions, I know the following to be true ... "..he who mentions a figure first is Doomed, to lose!" Never, mention a figure relating to salary first. Turn the question around and say "... I would expect to be recommpensed in line with my top-end peers."Sorry to be down on this, but reality is needed in this area. Two things to remember - Don't lie, you will be found out! Sell your value to the biusiness, you are not a box!Good luck let us know the outcome.CheersRalphralph.findlay@lineone.net