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Academic consultancies.......opinions please

 
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#0 Academic consultancies.......opinions please
 
Confused S
19.04.6 00:00
 
Hi,I've been approached to work for an academic consultancy and was wondering if anyone could provide me with answers regarding:- where can I find out about the ranking of academic consultancies?- what kind of salary/package should one expect?- if I was to consider moving into other aspects of consultancy at a later stage - would this job have been a benefit? I suppose what I'm trying to ask is - how are academic consultancies considered/viewed in contrast to other consultancy careers?- is there anybody out there already working for an academic consultancy who wouldn't mind talking about their experience?Thank you,S
 
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frisby
19.04.6 00:00
 
I may have some ideas but need to clarify something before I go off in the wrong direction for you:when you say "academic consultancy" do you mean working for an academic body and using their internal research and knowhow for external consulting,or do you mean working externally and providing consultancy to academic institutions on a range of business functions (e.g. finance, HR, marketing),or do you mean consulting on academic or education matters (e.g. research methods, funding, syllabuses, educational methods, educational psychology) to academic bodies?Cheers,Frisby
 
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S
19.04.6 00:00
 
Hi Frisby,Thanks for replying...my apologies for the vagueness regarding 'academic consultancy'.In this instance, the consultancy is affiliated to a university, although operates independently, and uses their research for external consulting or vice versa where the consultancy provides technology-related services for industry through a network of academic experts from the university.As soon as I have more details I'll get back to you. At the moment it appears more as an interface/facilitator between industry and academia.S
 
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frisby
19.04.6 00:00
 
That's great - sounds similar to what I did for 18 months after leaving (or rather, not leaving) uni. Thought I'd better check as people always got confused when I used the term. Okay, back to the original questions:- I haven't seen any rankings. I always got the impression that these things were tied to the research rankings and industry links rankings of the parent universities - especially as a lot of these groups operate under the banner of the university. A lot has to do with the repuation of individual professors as well, if they're well known in their field.- As above, because mostly they're part of the central university, you're classed as either academic or non-academic staff for salary-banding purposes. Former is probably better if you have a PhD and research background. Latter is probably better if you have professional qualifications. Either way, the salaries aren't going to break any records, but you should get a cushy pension and holiday package.- I moved into (private sector) management consultancy afterwards. I went from the "dark blue" university to the "big blue" company. I don't think the prior experience either helped or hindered me. I joined at the same level as other graduates who had done random things or nothing since leaving uni. Some of the work was transferrable, but I have no illusions that the environment is different enough that I'm pretty much starting on the same learning curve as everyone else. I'd say that the business types and the career paths are more different than similar. I found it really difficult to get any real consulting experience without coming from the academic side, but the academics don't like to think of themselves as consultants because they don't like the idea that their research is biased by commercial interests (i.e. customer needs). As a non-academic you do get to do a lot of the business development and selling that senior consultants would in a "normal" consultancy. I was a bit surprised by that as I think we were one of the better universities at commercialising our research, but it reflects the strengths and interests of people you find in the different positions. However, you also do a lot more basic administration and babysitting than I'd have liked; you have to do everything from filling in consultants' billing sheets for them to chasing them up for deadlines. Then again, the "herding cats" analogy has been used by IBM for their own adverts, so perhaps there are some parallels there.
 
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20.04.6 00:00
 
THis kinda sounds like the jobs at Corporate Executive Board so perhaps worth looking for info there for comparison.
 
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S
21.04.6 00:00
 
Hi,Thanks for you response. I've had a few more details since I last posted on the board - I'm meeting with the Chief Executive next week as well. I've also received a detailed job description...etc. and they seem to be fairly professional compared to your experience. Also the job seems to be more in the capacity of a project manager and identifying strategic alliances particularly in India, the Middle East & China.You mention in your post that "we were one of the better universities at commercialising our research", would you mind letting me know which university you are referring to?At present I'm finding it difficult to place this offer in context of consultancy as a whole, what I should take to the negotiation table and, more importantly, how this offer can potential benefit or detract from my future career - particulalry if at a later stage I want to go down the managment consultancy route.Any advice/guidance would be most welcome.S
 
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S
21.04.6 00:00
 
Great, I'll have a look.Thanks,S
 
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PJ
21.04.6 00:00
 
I think when the guy sad the "dark blue" uni that was the clue. There are only two real universitues after all. I think the dark blues won the boat race this year :-)
 
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Mike
04.05.6 00:00
 
Academic Consultancy: universities compete to get federal (mainly) grants to establish OUTREACH centers that will offer consutancy to the businesses, mainly located in a certain geographic areas that need the skills for less hourly rate than premium consultants.It is a good start since you can make contacts (but NOT with other consultancy firms). The one I know of (not for profit - state university) pays in the 50,000s range, and beleive it or not, some people leave big 5 companies to do this job because they do not want to travel (nationally/ internationally) anymore, on the other hands, others just make contacts and leave. Hope that helps.
 
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