I've just found this site and astonished about the vitriol on here about PA. I know I'm going to be accused of being naive, a stooge, a WUM (whatever that is), or Mr Burns himself, but here's my personal view about the company having been here for a fair few years, in the (no doubt vain) hope we can get a bit more balance back on here. Others can take it or leave it, but this is from the heart.What's good? I must have helped sell and work on more than 150 jobs working with different people, and the vast majority are great people, ethical, hard-working, knowledgeable and collegiate. I've encountered no more than 3 process maps (but there were beautiful) but have done some v interesting and productive projects that have made a real difference to clients and actually delivered change, with very few slides involved. I've seen the share price rise every year and, with the exception of this year, my own salary and share holding rise too. It's true PA is delayed gratification and that's probably not going to be in favour in today's world but the bonus system has changed in recent years and now there's more choice to take cash or shares at the junior grades. But tell me somewhere else where a consultant can build up a good chunk of ownership in the firm if they are not partners? What's not so good? I think we're too cautious and process driven, we're hopeless at internal communcation, our top team are not visible enough (practice leaders vary, some are excellent) and we're much too defensive in handling criticism. We handled the process over the summer poorly. I feel for the people who left but many should have been properly performance managed out a while ago. And with the consulting market apparently down 8% this year and other professional services down more (legal down 15%?), I'm not surprised we had to do something. To those who have left, I wish you all the best. To those who stay and seem to spend all their time moaning on here, I hope for your own sake you quickly decide how you want your career to develop and do something about it. And to those who stay or join and find the people enjoyable to work with and the projects stimulating let's work together constructively to improve the things that need to change. That's the end of my one and only entry, and I swear I am not the great Sir Ernest himself speaking from the grave....

No, you're not Sir Ernest from the grave: you're either Jon or Alan or someone instructed by them, I.e. clearly someone from corporate PA in a pathetic attempt to repaor PA's image on this forum.This post is cringeworthy, you should be ashamed of yourselves, PA management.

Yes, clearly a fatuous management post

I'm not PA management, nor am I any longer a PA employee. However, my experience of 3 years at PA tallies with that of the original poster. I can't comment on the handling of the redundancies because I wasn't there.

Look, PA- bashers - lyour life belongs to you. If you don't like PA then leave. Go get another job somewhere you like. Leave the company to the people who do like it (and if that is no one, then we'll soon see it disappear as a firm).It's quite possible that PA is a total nightmare. But more fool the people who say it, then stay! Aren't you good enough to get a job somewhere else?And if you've already left, and your posts are more about hurting the company because it once hurt you, well, go ahead. How much mental anguish are you carrying around that would be better directed into achieving great things in your own life. Jeez, if I mistakenly volunteered to stand upside in a pile of sh*t then I'd probably want to get out pretty quick - but I'm not sure I'd want to tell everyone I met about the experience. "Hi, I'm Bill, I once spent three years upside edown in horse manure". Other party quickly withdraws from handshake!Don't you realise that the more you lambast PA, the worse its reputation gets. The worse its reputation gets, the worse it looks on your CV that you spent some time there! The number 1 reason I can believe PA is not a decent firm is that their hiring standards must have been really low at some point - they certainly seem to have hired a whole bunch of whining, whinging, "life-owes-me" twats.

You do realise that most of the "PA complainers" on this forum work for competitors and are just trolling.

Jonnie - why is it idiots like you can't accept that there are lots of us (non-management and not being directed to write this by anyone) who actually enjoy working at PA?ernie b / non-PA / mack - well said.It has been said before on here many times, if you are in PA and don't like it then leave. If you have left then why don't you find some other way of getting rid of your bitterness.

Yeah, get on your bike you whingers. We don't like your sort round here. La la la - not listening, this isn't happening. Nice weather for the time of year, don't you think? Don't you? Ad nauseum....This is written on the last piece of paper in the world and I've cut down all the trees. End of. I thankyou.

These people will only exit when the firm is sold. Until then no capital - monetary or intellectual - will be risked. No leaks on this gravy train. What must end...

BOP man - are you really so arrogant that you a) can't see how much damage your whinging on here dies to PA and b) think you know better than the people running the company?If you were that insightful you would be a CEO somewhere.Let's be clear here, I am in PA and I like it and I don't want people like you in the company.