Is it a good idea to apply to the same firm, which turned down the candidate 3 months ago in the final interview? Reason was : "The candidate was not articulate during the interview"Any comments would be appreciatedThanks

Could you please clearly explain what you mean?

If the candidate is applying to a graduate position, then it is not a good idea to apply until at least a year after rejection, regardless of the reason for rejection.If the candidate is applying to an experienced hire position, then the candidate should ask themselves whether they can convincingly demonstrate an improvement in their peformance. Three months is a very short period, so I would be fairly skeptical that someone would improve their communication skills dramatically in that period. However, if there were extenuating circumstances for the poor performance in the first application then re-application may be worthwhile. Suitable extenuating circumstances could be extreme tiredness or illness, both of which typically impair communication skills.If the candidate re-applies, I would recommend that they make an explicit reference to how they have improved their articulation over the past three months. If their excuse for poor performance at the last interview was due to ill-health or tiredness, then they need to convince the recruiter that these issues will not re-occur under normal operating conditions (e.g. when working typical consulting hours).There is an exception to the above advice. If the candidate's first application was to a role requiring very strong communication skills and the second application is to a role that does not require strong communication skills, then the candidate can argue that they have taken on board the feedback and adjusted their goals accordingly.

Well, I had an interview with an xyz firm. They turn me down after final interview with one of the hiring manager. The verbal feedback I received was "I was not articulate enough during the interview". So is it a good idea to apply in the same department ? There is a possibility that I might face the same manager again (if they call me for the interview)Ah, I am in shilly-shally

Thanks Anon. But is was more like I sounded over confident and talking too much (I was nervous and felt a bit hyper).I spoke to someone from HR. She said there is no time restrictions to apply again. Just wondering about a valid excuse to back up "being over confident"....... any suggestions ?

Write to HR. Tell them that, under the requirements of the data protection act 1998, you hereby give notice that you are withdrawing permission for them to store or process any personal information about you. Then wait a few months for it to all blow over and apply to a different department once you have been forgotten from the 'corporate memory'.

Is English your first language? You seem to struggle a bit with it.

Thanks Cynic. I was thinking the same. That is why I asked them if there any time restriction. Having said that, I can imagine they will destroy my personal information, but as it is the same department (didn't find other department's job advert in last 3 months) there is significant chance of meeting same people. I don't think their "corporate memory" is same as gold fish memory. So I have to admit about my previous confrontation with them. I just need to think a good reason I guess.

No its not.What makes you to think that grumpy ?

No it's not; very unlikely they would reconsider you, and if you meet them same people again they will certainly have a bias. My suspicion is that 'over confidence' in this case means arrogance, which doesn't go in 3 Months.Learn the lession, structure your interview responses to avoid running off on tangents, learn some self deprecating humour, and move on.

Not being articulate and being overconfident are entirely different things so I don't see how they can relate to the same piece of feedback.If both issues were apparent at the interview, that's a fairly damning result and I wouldn't bother applying to the same firm again.

What about if they judge the new application as focused and targeted ? They might be thinking he will be a loyal employee, and demonstrating professionalism by applying again

Why on earth would you want to apply again?! Surely being hired would be a disaster, even if you could manoevre so that no-one in the recruitment process realises you've been recently rejected. Sooner or later one of the following is going to happen:i) During the promotion rounds the fact that you were rejected by the firm and are "lucky to even be here" will count against you and slow your promotion track.ii) You will find yourself staffed on a project with someone involved in your earlier rejection decision, spelling several months of misery and suspicion that your abilities are being undermined behind closed doors and / or terse relations with your project teamiii) It becomes common knowledge in the firm that you made it into the firm only because of an oversight by recruitment; your standing in the firm is shot and no-one wants to have you staffed on their projects, meaning you're first in line for redundancy.I could go on, but you get the point...

Anon, I can't help but applaud you for your innocent, "glass is half full" approach to life.However...I have never, EVER, known a candidate get a job with a company that rejected them 3 months ago. And unfortunately I know plenty that have tried. You think maybe they will like your loyalty, demonstrating professionlism; taking the cynical approach they would think you are desperate and NEED to move but can't get a job anywhere else. This will damage your chances further if you did want to apply in 12 months (something that is more reasonable and I have seen people reconsidered positively).I would also ask myself if you really want to work for a company that didn't think you were a good fit in the first place. There are plenty more fish in the sea etc etc...

You could do what some married women do: Use a different surname.You could decide that, from now on, you want to be known as Robert Michaelson. Or David LeBaum. Or Rahul Atak. Or Ed Brown. Then just re-apply, using your 'new' name. I'm no expert on the matter, but I don't think you even have to change your name via deed poll or whatever it's called in order to use a new name. It's just that you'll have one name that you use in everyday life, and another that is your 'legal' name. Kinda like a company called XYZ plc "trading as" ABC. You get the idea.Disclaimer. Note that I'd check this out thoroughly before trying it out. You don't wanna get done for fraud or lying or whatever. So don't take this as legal advice, or any other form of advice/recommendation for that matter.