no not a graduate at all, Hi mate thanks, i work for a caravan manufacturer which is going belly up. This was my first ful time job and have been here wasting away for a decade, but because i live 2 mins from here i never wanted to move, I did go down the route of training for a MCDBA but the provider was involved in fraud thus I anded up without the qualification and lost lots of money. Now if i am made reduandant I want to go down the route of MCSE or Wed Developer etc, I am very very creating and love designing reports, and new databases etc, this company uses over 100 reports Ive personnaly deveoped using Crystal, they also use a database i developed for sales and runs alongside our in house software. I have had a look for jobs using Crystal and most are contract work an to be fair £200 - £240 an hour is a hell of a lot, I have always been on a low income started on £8000 and because Ive introduced lots of new procedure to this small company ive gone up alot each year more than the average and am now on £16600 a year, but it still is not challenging enough, i want to do something that actually tests me, gets me thinking again. So if i am to be made redundant i was going to invest my healthy redundancy payment in a good IT course that would get my foot into the door as even a junior earns more than i do, i suspect i wont be to long before i start to progress as well, i thrive an challenges, and a new career certainly is that, and advice is always welcome!