Toy Man's point raises a most interesting perspective on this (as does Qwerty, though TM was first).Cardinal sin #1 in any analysis: we have not defined our terms here, so what are we actually counting?The king of Sparta was once asked why his city had no walls (the only one of the time not to have any, yet simultaneously the most powerful). The king pointed at his army and replied: "There is my wall, and every man is a brick." (Hence the expression of a reliable person as a brick.)Anyway, given that there are probably three or four people around who truly merit this approbation, the petals would likely still win the count :)My point is, the concepts need to be clarified in order to make a reasoned analysis ...