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Universities with kudos

 
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Young 'un
19.09.6 00:00
 
Hello everybodyI will be going to university after my gap year and would like to know which of the institutions (other than Oxbridge) have more (or less) "snob value" amongst consultancies. I am not saying I believe in snob value myself, but I might as well be aware of peoples' prejudices if I can. I'm also not that interested in published rankings, as these can differ somewhat from people's perceptions.The universities I am considering (in no particular order) are:Warwick, St Andrews, Bristol, LSE, Imperial, UCL, York, Exeter Thank you!
 
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JamieS
19.09.6 00:00
 
I'd say, in some sort of orderLSE, Imperial, UCL, Warwick, York, St Andrews, Exeter.
 
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Snob
19.09.6 00:00
 
I'd say, for pure snob value:LSE, Imperial, St Andrews, Warwick, York, Exeter
 
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city boy
19.09.6 00:00
 
All those universities are good.In the city I think the London colleges are especially well-regarded, then St Andrews, as it's one of the ancients. Warwick, York and Exeter have all got solid reps though.
 
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Go for it
19.09.6 00:00
 
Have a look at the Russell Group research.Snobs, and inverted snobs, do rely too much on prejudice. Published rankings can be a bit misleading. However some in the consulting industry use research from the above, so it must have some impact on perceptions. You have a great shortlist and are sensible to sort it out in advance (then enjoy it!).I had a great time at one of those on your list, but never chose it for snob value. It was nice to hear about the people with top jobs that had studied there though. Gave me something to think about whilst I was eating shoestring bolognaise whilst travelling!
 
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1994
19.09.6 00:00
 
check out 1994 group too
 
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Lord Snooty
19.09.6 00:00
 
St Andrews, LSE and Imperial have snob value amongs older recruiters and public school types, they all have kudos with everyone else.
 
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Also
20.09.6 00:00
 
Edinburgh, Durham and Bristol also have a bit of snob value - don't know whether they would displace any of those already mentioned from a recruiter's mental list though.
 
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me
20.09.6 00:00
 
1.LSE and Imperial2. Edinburgh, St Andrews, Bristol, Durham3. Warwick, York, UCL4. ExeterMay not tally with the rankings, but then the rankings have some fairly random criteria
 
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John Peters
21.09.6 00:00
 
Undergrad: BS:1.Oxbridge 1.LBS2. LSE, Imperial 2. Oxford, Cranfield3.Edinburgh, Bristol, 3. Judge, Warwick, MBSDurham,St Andrews4. Warwick, York, Exeter 4. Cass, Tanaka
 
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Academia
21.09.6 00:00
 
I think the most interesting rankings are is those produced by The Times based on academic peer and headteacher assessment, which are based on opinion rather than some slightly strange metrics:1. Ox2. Cam3. IC4. LSE5. UCL6. Bristol7. Arts8. Edinburgh9. Warwick10. Manchester11. Notts12. Bath13. Durham14. Kings15. York16. Leeds17. Birmingham18. Southampton19. Glasgow20. St AndrewsSeems pretty fair to me. Obviously University of the Arts might not be one to go for if you want to go into IB or MC but I'm sure it's great for things artistic.
 
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hmmm
21.09.6 00:00
 
Hmmmnot so sure...some of those placements look decidedly dodgy....would be interesting to see who they asked, but they do not elaborate on their methodology on their site.If you are going to follow rankings at all (not a good idea in my opinion) the more scientific might be quality of research and teaching, and maybe even student satisfaction. But even then the methodology is open to substantial criticism. With this in mind I think Young 'un was right to ask for opinions amongst consultancies...quite possibly quite different from those amongst academics.
 
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Academia
21.09.6 00:00
 
Well, it is of course subjective and rankings are quite controversial. I wouldn't argue too much with the top half of that list (Arts aside).What is interesting is that in most rankings, whatever the metrics, the best places (Oxford, Cambridge and then the jostling of a handful of Londeon colleges) always seem to come through. Beyond that, there are often few points separating the pack.In that list, I don't see many notable omissions and there are no poor institutions; one could argue for a re-ordering of the list, especially the lower half, but I think you could reasonably say that there are three tiers:1. Ox+Cam2. London 33. OthersWithin each tier the institutions are of fairly similar merit, and of course there will be some courses than are better than their equivalents in higher tiers.PS Exeter keeps creeping in. It's good, but you seem to be confusing social exclusivity / class profile with academic excellence.
 
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dd
21.09.6 00:00
 
Sounds like the original poster was primarily after social exclusivity rather than high rankings though, doesn't it?
 
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