no need to be harsh about EDS, it is what it is, an IT services company, don't expect anything else. It's good at IT (yes, I know there are co*k-ups but all the big IT players are the same) and that's as far as it goesit can't be comapred with MBBBanyway HP are going to demolish us (think nadal vs. murray), they will rip through us cutting the dead wood, but what's left will be a lot better - bring it on.ps ho ho, your rude word filter wouldn't let me write co*k