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michael856
28.05.13 00:00
 
Hi,If you are interviewing with a small but well established firm, and during the process they try to entice you with being able to buy shares in the company very cheaply, how much attention should be paid to this? Is the reality that the current/original owners are not going to dilute their stake significantly for you by offering a lot of shares in the first place or can you actually get some good returns joining a small firm who offers this kind of arrangement's? Also whats the time frame for any significant returns?I know some people have been enticed to join companies with promises of shares and good returns and have ended up making little money from it.Thanks
 
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Bushy Eyebrow Partner
28.05.13 00:00
 
Unless the founders' names are either Larry or Sergy, I'd be inclined to ask for good old fashioned salary instead.
 
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Cockney
07.06.13 00:00
 
Ask yourself one question - why?The way I look at this is simple. You're being offered the chance to buy a minority stake in a closely held company, probably using your cash bonus - which effectively isn't paid out. So you have to value that company, you have to know who all the shareholders and debtholders are, and you have to be able to sell at a price above what you buy. You also have to be sure that by holding shares, this doesn't affect your future pay progression.What are the possible outcomes?1. You leave the company.Your shares will have a token value. Why? Because the value will be low at that point. Who is going to adjudicate on the earnings, let alone the multiple of earnings? Is it 2, 4, or 8? Its usually 8 when you buy in and 2 when you leave.2. You stay and build a great company which achieves a trade sale.Look carefully at the structure of the company. There will be debt in the company that converts to equity on sale. And in the interim period, if times get bad and there is a cashflow issue, will one of the shareholders have the financial capacity to dilute you at a very cheap price? And how much say will you have over the direction of your investment, the strategy, the decisions taken, probably very little.
 
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Bushy Eyebrow Partner
10.06.13 00:00
 
Ask yourself one more question: "Whither socialism?"
 
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Mr Cool
10.06.13 00:00
 
"Whither"!!!!!Zounds, BEP, thoust reproductive organs are most certainly in an incendiary state on this day...
 
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Mr Cool
10.06.13 00:00
 
Sorry BEP - couldn't resist...Given the simplicity with which the original question is posed you may have to provide more that just the title of " this little Stiglitz went to market..."
 
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Bushy Eyebrow Partner
10.06.13 00:00
 
Hehe, "this little stiglitz went to market"... love it :)
 
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Mr Cool
10.06.13 00:00
 
All my own work too! Can't believe it bombed at the last open-mike night...
 
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